How long do you practice?

Post here if you are just starting out with your mindfulness practice. Mindfulness is a really difficult concept to get your head around at first, and it might be that you would benefit from some help from others.
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Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:11 am  

monkeymind wrote:I read in one of my books that a good rule of thumb is to sit for any amount of time you feel comfortable with, plus one extra minute. It sounds like good advice to me. It'd be interesting to see what you pick up on during that final minute!

Yes - I totally agree. This is also why I sometimes remain in position after my timer has gone off, just so that on the more gloomy days I don't feel so tempted to cut off the mindfulness at a predictable point in time - and therefore splitting my life up into 'mindfulness' and 'the rest'. That extra little minute can be very useful to see what one's subconscious has got lined up next in it's 'playlist'.

Here's JKZ in Wherever you go, There you are(2004) - Chapter: 'Coming Out of Meditation', p117-118:
In your meditation practice, especially when you are not using a tape for guidance, see if you can detect the very first impulse to quit, and any others that may follow, growing in strength. As you recognize each impulse, breathe with it for a few moments, and ask yourself, "Who has had enough?" Try looking into what is behind the impulse. Is it fatigue, boredom, pain, impatience; or is it just time to stop? Whatever the case, rather than automatically leaping up or moving on, try lingering with whatever arises out of this inquiry, breathing with it for a few moments or even longer, and allowing the moving out of your meditation posture to be as much an object of moment-to-moment awareness as any other moment in the meditation. Practicing like this can increase mindfulness in many different situations that involve closing or ending something and moving on to something else.

Another aspect of seated mindfulness which is not mentioned enough, in my opinion, by mindfulness teachers, is to find a way to enjoy the sitting. The relaxing slow deep breaths can be a peaceful, enjoyable experience in itself - like sitting next to a quiet lake. It's a cliche, but there's nothing wrong with enjoying such things. One's 'internal lake' (JKZ lake meditation in Wherever you go..., for example) can be just as good as the real thing.

I wrote about this in a blog post last year titled: Mindful Sitting: Joy in Nature. We must not forget that we are as natural and potentially 'enjoyable' as the mountains, rivers, trees, etc., and this internal nature can be a source of joy while sitting anywhere. One of the quotes at the beginning of the blog post which I love, from the Indian Mystic Poet and Spiritualist Kabir (1440–1518), goes as follows:
"Don't go outside your house to see the flowers.
My friend, don't bother with that excursion.
Inside your body there are flowers.
One flower has a thousand petals.
That will do for a place to sit.
Sitting there you will have a glimpse of beauty
inside the body and out of it,
before gardens and after gardens."

Enjoy :)
"Compassion – particularly for yourself – is of overwhelming importance." - Mark Williams, Mindfulness (2011), p117.
"...allow yourself to smile inwardly." - Jon Kabat-Zinn, Full Catastrophe Living (2005), p436.
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Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:21 am  

1000 petal lotus? :)
i'm really liking all these little poems and such
thanks

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Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:16 am  

Lovely to see Kabir on here. For those with Kindle, a collection of his work is available for free via Amazon.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Songs-of-Kabir- ... ords=kabir
And I totally agree with monkeymind's comments about length of sitting. That final minute is always interesting. I see it as the transition between formal meditation and getting along with my day, hopefully in a mindful fashion. If I sit for longer than 30 minutes my spaniel Banjo tends to get a bit worried about me and starts licking my face which can be a little bit distracting. My cat, Bilbo, jumped on my head during a body scan the other day. I tried to look upon it as the feline equivalent of a Zen master whacking a daydreamy student with a stick.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:55 am  

I am still getting comfortable with 'formal' sittings so am trying to do 2 3 minute mindfulness of body and breath meditations. At times I don't feel like this is enough but then I remember that mindfulness and meditation is the goal in itself.

Today's morning session really helped me calm my mind.
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Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:16 pm  

Hi Vixine,

I'm also dealing with the challenge of keeping up a formal practice alongside being mum of a small child - it can feel like a choice between getting enough sleep & doing my daily practice.

I've managed to keep up a mostly daily practice for over a year now by fitting formal practice in wherever it works - depending on how my little boy's routine has shifted. Sometimes there are periods when this means I only do short sessions, but I definitely feel the benefits from doing it so regularly - compared to periods in the past when I only did informal practice.

I find the benefits can be quite subtle - so for me, writing in a journal at the end of each week helps me to notice the positive effects over time, and helps me keep my commitment to practice.

Hope you're fitting in both mindfulness practice and sleep!

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Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:08 am  

Thanks Sheila. I have been pretty consistent these past couple weeks about doing 5-10 minutes of mindfulness each day, also 15-30 minutes of yoga a day during which I try to be mindful. I think I have already noticed some subtle differences. I am really enjoying this board and I feel like keeping in touch here is a positive thing for me too. It is interesting to hear the varying answers on how long people practice - there is quite a range. Like it was said in another post - meditation is such a personal thing.

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